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I’M KASSATA BOLLMAN. 

TODAY MY GUEST IS AUTHOR AND HEAD OF THE SOURDOUGH SCHOOL, 

VANESSA KIMBELL. 

SHE JOINS US FROM ENGLAND.

HERE’S A QUICK INTRO ABOUT VANESSA:

AT AGE 9 SHE MOVED TO SOUTH-WEST FRANCE...AND LIVED RIGHT NEXT TO A BAKERY. 

THE MOMENT THAT SHE WALKED INTO THIS BAKERY…. A DEEP CONNECTION WAS MADE….EVERYTHING ABOUT THE CRAFT RESONATED WITH HER IMMEDIATELY. 

AS A TEEN SHE WORKED AT THAT BAKERY.

AT 18 SHE LEFT THE COUNTRY-SIDE…..AND WORKED AT BAKERIES AROUND FRANCE...THEN WENT TO UNIVERSITY IN THE UK.

AROUND THIS TIME SHE BECAME SICK AND TOOK A COCKTAIL OF ANTIBIOTICS…..THAT IN TURN,  DESTROYED HER GUT MICROBIOME…. AND….FROM THAT MOMENT ON…. HER BODY COULD NOT TOLERATE WHEAT. 

SHE HAD TO STOP BAKING….HER PASSION...TAKEN AWAY...OVER-NIGHT.

FOR OVER 4 YEARS…. SHE AVOIDED ALL WHEAT….. UNTIL SHE DISCOVERED THAT SHE COULD DIGEST SOURDOUGH…. WITHOUT ISSUES.  

TODAY WE’LL BE DISCUSSING INDUSTRIAL WHITE BREAD, EATING WITH AWARENESS, BAKING TO NOURISH, AND HOW EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED TO WHAT WE EAT….

SO I’LL START BY ASKING…..AS WE ALWAYS DO….VANESSA…..

 “HAVE YOU EATEN YET?” AND IF YOU HAVE….WHAT DID YOU EAT TODAY?

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COVID UPDATE

BEFORE WE JUMP INTO EVERYTHING BREAD RELATED….CAN YOU GIVE ME A QUICK UPDATE ABOUT LIFE IN THE U.K. WHEN IT COMES TO COVID…..HAVE RESTRICTIONS BEEN LIFTED? ARE RESTAURANTS & SCHOOLS LIKE YOURS BACK OPEN WITH INDOOR CAPACITY?

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INDUSTRIAL WHITE BREAD

IN OUR SOCIETY WE OFTEN HEAR…”UGH I’VE GOT TO LAY OFF THE BREAD….I NEED TO LOSE WEIGHT”......AND IN MY RESTAURANT IT’S NOT UNCOMMON ON ANY GIVEN DAY…. TO RECEIVE AN ORDER…. OR TWO….. OR THREE…. THAT SAYS “NO BREAD”.....OR FOR PEOPLE TO ASK “DO YOU HAVE GLUTEN FREE BREAD?”

I WANT TO DISCUSS INDUSTRIAL WHITE BREAD…. 

IS IT DAMAGING OUR SOCIETY ON A CULTURAL LEVEL ? 

SPECIFICALLY I WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN FERMENTATION & MENTAL HEALTH….

WHEN IT COMES TO ANXIETY & DEPRESSION…

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INDUSTRIAL WHITE BREAD CONTINUED

AND VANESSA WHILE WE’RE HERE ON THIS TOPIC….CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LINK BETWEEN GUT & MIND….. & THE CONNECTION THIS ALL HAS….TO OUR MICROBIAL WORLD…..

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EATING WITH AWARENESS

SO NOW THAT WE’RE ALL STARTING TO UNDERSTAND THE SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP THAT EXISTS BETWEEN OUR MIND AND GUT….I’D LIKE TO ZONE IN ON THE IMPORTANCE OF FOCUSING ON HOW WE FEEL…. AS WE EAT….AND AFTER CONSUMPTION…

MANY TIMES WE EAT WITHOUT INTENTION….WITHOUT AWARENESS….WITHOUT  CHECKING IN….. AND ACTUALLY ASKING OUR BODY …..” HOW DO YOU FEEL?” “DO YOU FEEL STUFFED OR NOURISHED ?”.....

TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FEELINGS…….

SO VANESSA COULD YOU DISCUSS SOME OF THE PHYSICAL EFFECTS THAT WE MIGHT NOTICE WHEN EATING INDUSTRIAL WHITE BREAD?

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BAKING TO NOURISH

LET’S SLIDE INTO …. RE-THINKING THE WAY WE BAKE  BREAD, AND MILL FLOUR…

I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE  7 PRINCIPLES OF BAKING TO NOURISH….. 

WITHIN THIS APPROACH, YOU BAKE WITH WILD YEAST…...WHILE CREATING DIVERSITY & BOTANICAL BLEND BREADS….

CAN YOU BREAK DOWN YOUR IDEA OF BAKING TO NOURISH?

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EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED TO WHAT WE EAT:

IN MY RESEARCH I LEARNED THAT YOU’RE A PRACTICING BUDDHIST…..

AND IMMEDIATELY I THOUGHT 

“WHAT BETTER PERSON THAN A BUDDHIST TO SPEND HER LIFE’S PASSION…. CONNECTING OUR MICROBIAL COMMUNITY... TO OUR GUT…..ALL WHILE EDUCATING PEOPLE... ABOUT THIS SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP”….

I’D LOVE FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE WORLD IS INTERCONNECTED & THE IMPORTANCE OF IT ALL….

SPECIFICALLY THE HEALTH & WELLNESS OF THE PLANET, THE LAND, THE PEOPLE...AND HOW IT’S ALL CONNECTED TO WHAT WE EAT… ..

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TAKEAWAY:

VANESSA, THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY WITH US …....

I LIKE ENDING…. BY ASKING…. IF THERE’S ANY TAKEAWAY THAT YOU’D LIKE TO LEAVE WITH LISTENERS…... THAT CAN POSITIVELY INFLUENCE THEIR LIVES….. 

IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, A PRO TIP…. OR GENERAL LIFE ADVICE THAT YOU LIVE BY ….…

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……& VANESSA WHERE CAN PEOPLE FOLLOW YOU ?

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OUTRO:

THANKS FOR LISTENING….AND IF YOU HAVEN’T ALREADY….... FOLLOW  “HAVE YOU EATEN YET?” ….WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS….

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